Town Council Minutes - what happened when we tried to get a historic district in Stillwater?
(extracted from the municipal website)
Township Committee Minutes
October 30, 2003
The Historic Preservation Workshop Meeting of the Stillwater Township Committee was held at the Stillwater Elementary School, Stillwater, New Jersey.
The meeting was started by Mr. John Risko, Sussex County Assistant County Engineer at 7:05 P.M.. Deputy Mayor Klimek and Mr. Sylvester were present. Mr. Risko introduced Andrea Tingey, Principal Historic Preservationist, NJ Historic Preservation Office, George Chidley, Administrative Analyst II, NJ Historic Preservation Office, Leile Hamroun, Senior Graduate Architect, Watson & Henry Associates and Wayne McCabe, PP,AICP, Wayne T. McCabe & Associates, Inc.
Upon arrival of
Mayor Scott and Mr. Kolody at 7:20 P.M. a quorum of Township Committee was established. This meeting has been duly published and notice posted in public places.
Mr. Chidley gave a presentation on becoming an Historic District and the process that needed to be followed.
Ms. Hamroun was present to explain how Cape May is a unique Historic District and how they are trying to expand the district.
Mr. McCabe stated that Newton has an Historic District but Stillwater would be much different.
Several questions were asked of the panel and the audience was advised that another meeting would be held in December. The panel advised the audience that the Planning Board and Zoning Board would have a lot of input in the process.
Mayor Scott thanked the panel for coming to the meeting.
Mr. Risko closed the meeting at 9:03 P.M..
Township
Committee Minutes
December 2, 2003
Historic District Committee: Mayor Scott stated the
Historic District Committee should be set up the same way the
original
Bridge Committee was set up.
Mr. Kolody stated that this involves a more structured
committee
consisting of a member of the Planning Board, Township
Committee
member, Mayor, State Historical Society, and two citizens from
the
district or outside the district. Mr. Sylvester stated he
thought a
member from the Zoning Board should be appointed. Mr. Kolody
stated
the Zoning Board only comes in when people don’t comply with
certain
issues; this committee is only advisory board. Mr. Maselli
informed
the Township Committee that he is interested in serving on the
Historic District Committee.
Township
Committee Minutes
January 6, 2004
COMMITTEEMAN MR. KOLODY’S STATEMENT FOR THE YEAR 2004: Mr.
Kolody stated there are some changes regarding office
procedures that
he would like to make and he’ll work with Mr. Fuoco on that.
In the
budget process make sure appropriate monies are put aside for
Capital
Improvements. To amend the Zoning Ordinance to move forward on
a
Historical Preservation Committee and he would like to take
part in
that. To move forward on getting the chief of police position
filled
and direct the negotiations to making the police department
stable in
the employment area. To support the township volunteer
organizations
and to see that the Stillwater Rescue Squad building be built
and
proceed onto the other items discussed two years ago.
Township
Committee Minutes
February 3, 2004
Stillwater Historic Preservation Advisory Committee:
Mayor Klimek read the announcement for the formation of the
Stillwater
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee. The members of this
committee are: Elsie Roof, Roy Knutson, Lou Calisebetta, Fred
Schultz,
Don Meister, Jamie Brown, and Joanne Teare. Mr. Fuoco and Mr.
Sylvester will represent the Township Committee and Mr.
Schultz will
chair the Stillwater Historic Preservation Advisory Committee.
Township
Committee Minutes
February 17, 2004
Mayor Klimek stated this portion of the
meeting for
the next hour will be devoted to finalizing the budget.
1205 Historical Preservation Advisory Committee:
The
Township Committee appropriated the following line items for
the
Historical Preservation Advisory Committee, Secretary
$1,250.00,
Stationary $75.00, and Consultant $600.00.
Township
Committee Minutes
March 2, 2004
Historic Preservation Commission Advisory Committee:
MOTION was made by Mr. Fuoco and seconded by Mr.
Scott for
the Clerk to advertise a meeting for the Historic
Preservation Commission
Advisory Committee for March 10th, 2004 at 7:00
P.M. at
the Municipal Building. Motion passed unanimously by
roll call
vote.
Township
Committee Minutes
April 6, 2004
ORDINANCE #2004-10: This being the 1st
reading, MOTION was made by Mr. Sylvester and seconded by Mr. Fuoco to introduce
Ordinance #2004-10.
Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote.
ORDINANCE #2004-10
AN ORDINANCE TO CREATE THE POSITION
OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADVISORY
COMMITTEE SECRETARY
Mr. Charles Gross 912 Stillwater Road spoke to the
Township Committee on different line items in the budget.
Stillwater Historical Preservation Advisory Committee:
Mr. Fuoco stated the Stillwater Historical Preservation
Advisory Committee
met on March 10th which was primarily an
organizational
meeting and they also met on March 23rd and was
given a
presentation by Andrea Tinghey of the State Office of
Historic Preservation.
Township
Committee Minutes
April 27, 2004
ORDINANCE #2004-10: This being the 2nd
reading, MOTION was made by Mr. Scott and
seconded by Mr.
Fuoco to open Ordinance #2004-10 to the public. Motion passed
unanimously by roll call vote.
Mayor Klimek opened this portion of the meeting to the
public.
Seeing no one wished to speak, Mayor Klimek closed this
portion of
the meeting to the public.
ORDINANCE #2004-10
AN ORDINANCE TO CREATE THE
POSITION OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION
ADVISORY COMMITTEE SECRETARY
BE IT ORDAINED by the Township Committee of the
Township of
Stillwater that the following position be created:
1. Historic Preservation Advisory Committee Secretary
This ordinance shall take effect after publication and
passage to
law.
Stillwater Historical Preservation Advisory Committee:
Mr. Fuoco stated the Stillwater Historical Preservation
Advisory Committee
meeting is being held on April 27
th, 2004 and
will have
a report available by the next meeting.
Township
Committee Minutes
June 1, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report: Mr.
Fuoco stated at the Historic Preservation Advisory Committee
meeting
was held on May 25th, 2004 and the following was
discussed.
It was decided to form two sub-committees. One
sub-committee
will identify contributing structures in the newly drawn
Stillwater Village District. The other will study the
Historic
Preservation element of other municipalities’ master
plans.
The sub-committees are to report back to the full
committee at
the June 22nd, 2004 meeting.
Township
Committee Minutes
June 15, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report: Mr.
Fuoco stated the Historic Preservation Advisory Committee will
be
meeting on June 22
nd, 2004.
Township
Committee Minutes
July 20, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report: Mr.
Fuoco stated the Historic Preservation Advisory Committee
meeting was
held on June 22
nd, 2004.
Township
Committee Minutes
August 3, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report: Mr.
Fuoco stated the Historic Preservation Advisory Committee
meeting
was held on July 27th, 2004.
There was considerable public input, neighbors having
received
a letter informing them of the committee’s work. Although,
only
a few people attended they had a number of questions.
The Policy Statement, which was circulated, was
approved and
now the all-important work of developing the ordinances
commences.
The committee hopes to have recommended ordinances by the
end of
November.
Township
Committee Minutes
August 17, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report: Mr.
Fuoco stated the Historic Preservation Advisory Committee
meeting will
be held on August 24
th, 2004.
Historic Preservation Committee:
Mayor Klimek stated a letter was received from the Historic
Preservation Committee requesting comments from the Stillwater
Township Committee members. The township committee agreed to
contact
Mr. Fred Shultz individually with regards to their comments to
the
Historic Preservation Committees letter.
Township
Committee Minutes
September 7, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report: Mr.
Fuoco stated the Historic Preservation Advisory Committee
meeting was
held on August 24
th, 2004 and the public expressed
their
concerns regarding Rights to the Exclusion from the district.
Township
Committee Minutes
September 21, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report: Mr.
Fuoco stated there was no Historic Preservation Advisory
Committee
meeting.
Township
Committee Minutes
October 5, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report:
Mr. Fuoco stated he was unable to attend the Historic
Preservation
Advisory Committee meeting. Mr. Sylvester attended in his
absence and
would report on the meeting.
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report: Mr.
Sylvester stated
Mr. Tom Jones a Historic Preservationist attended the
Historic
Preservation Advisory Committee meeting on September 28th,
2004 to answer questions and to give a brief presentation. He
also
stated that there were approximately forty seven people in
attendance.
Carmilo Maselli, of 927 Main
Street,
questioned the township committee regarding the Historical
Preservation Advisory Committee meeting that was held on
September 28th,
2004.
Rich Kelsky,
of 915 Cedar Ridge Road,
commented on the Historical Preservation Advisory Committee
meeting
that was held on September 28th, 2004.
Mr. Fuoco made a minor point that the
Historical Preservation Advisory Committee "is a committee and
not a commission. Under New Jersey law, a Historic Commission
is a
statutory body, with a specific membership. The term
"committee" and "commission" should not be used
interchangeably."
Mr. Scott hopes the Historical
Preservation
Advisory Committee listens to the people.
Mr. Kolody asked Mr. Fuoco if
the Historical
Preservation Advisory Committee could come up with a timetable
to
present to the township committee.
Township
Committee Minutes
October 19, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report:
Mr. Fuoco had no reports to make at this time. The Historic
Preservation Advisory Committee meets again on October 26
th,
2004.
Historic District: Mayor Klimek reported that he has
received about seven letters from residents who are against
having
their property listed in a Historic District. Mayor Klimek
went on to
state that he will be drafting a letter to notify these
residents that
we are just in the preliminary process of deciding whether to
establish a Historic District, this process relies on public
input.
Mayor Klimek finished by saying the residents’ letters will be
sent
to the Historic Preservation Advisory Committee so that the
committee
will have all information necessary to make a decision.
Township
Committee Minutes
November 9, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee
report: The
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee met on October 26th,
2004.
Approximately thirty four property
owners
were present.
Most of the meeting was devoted to public session.
A budget of approximately $2,000 will be submitted
to the
Township Committee from the Historic Preservation
Advisory
Committee for the year 2005 of which half will be
going to
hire a consultant to help redefine boundary lines on
the
district.
Richard Kelsky, of Cedar Ridge Road, questioned
Mr. Fuoco on the proposed historic district.
Township
Committee Minutes
November 23, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report: The
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee meeting will be held
on
November 30
th, 2004.
Township
Committee Minutes
December 7, 2004
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee report: The
Historic Preservation Advisory Committee met on November 30
th,
2004.
Township
Committee Minutes
December 21, 2004
RESOLUTION #2004-113
WHEREAS, the appears to be insufficient funds in
the following
account (excepting the appropriation for Contingent Expenses
or
Deferred Charges) to meet the demands thereon for the balance
of the
Current Year,
Department of Public Works-Vehicles 024-0122-910
Historical Preservation Committee-Salaries & Wages
024-1205-101
WHEREAS, there appears to be a surplus in the
following
account (excepting the appropriation for Contingent Expenses,
Deferred
Charges, Cash Deficit of Preceding year, Reserve for
Uncollected
Taxes, Down Payments, Capital Improvement Fund, or Interest
and Debt
Redemption Charges) over and above the demand deemed to be
necessary
for the balance of the Current Year,
Department of Public Works-Salaries & Wages
024-0121-102
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY, (not less than
two-thirds
of all the members thereof affirmatively concurring) that in
accordance with the provision of R.S.40A:4-58 part of the
surplus in
the account heretofore mentioned be and the same $1,227.00
hereby transferred to the account (excepting the appropriation
for
Contingent Expenses or Deferred Charges) mentioned as being
insufficient, to meet the current demands, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the CFO is hereby
authorized and
directed to make the following transfers:
FROM TO
Department of Public Works-S&W $1,200.00 Department of
Public
Works-Vehicles
Department of Public Works-S&W $ 27.00 Historical Pres.
Committee-S&W
Township
Committee Minutes
January 1, 2005
2005 TEMPORARY BUDGET RESOLUTION
WHEREAS, 40A:4-19 Local Budget Act provides that where any
contracts, commitments or payments are to be made prior to the
final
adoption of the 2005 Budget, temporary appropriations be made
for the
purpose and amounts required in the manner and time therein
provided,
WHEREAS, the date of this resolution is within the first
thirty
days of 2005, and
WHEREAS, total appropriations in the 2004 Budget, less
appropriations made for capital improvement fund, debt service
and
relief of the poor (public assistance) are as follows:
General $2,764,094.00
WHEREAS, 26.25 percent of the total appropriations in the
2004
Budget less appropriations for capital improvement fund, debt
service
and relief of the poor (public assistance) in the said 2004
Budget is
as follows,
General $725,575.00
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, by the Mayor and Township
Committee
of the Township of Stillwater, County of Sussex that the 2005
Temporary Budget be adopted and that a certified copy be
transmitted
to the Chief Financial Officer for her records.
Historical Preservation Commission-Salaries & Wages $ 383.00
Historical Preservation Commission-Other Expenses $ 168.00
Township
Committee Minutes
January 26, 2005
Department #1205 Historic Preservation Advisory Committee:
The township committee made no changes to this department.
Township
Committee Minutes
February 1, 2005
Historical Preservation Advisory Committee: Mr. Fuoco
stated the Historical Preservation Advisory Committee met on
January
31st, 2005 and the following was discussed.
Establishment of a Historical Preservation Advisory
Commission.
Definitive map on the Village of Stillwater with the
boundaries.
Inventory of the key structures and elements of the
historic
district done by
Mrs. Roof and Mrs. Teare.
Township
Committee Minutes
April
5, 2005
Mayor Sylvester added
that the following items should be placed on the next agenda:
Historic District Commission
Township
Committee Minutes
April
12, 2005HISTORIC
PRESERVATION ADVISORY COMMISSION PRESENTATION:
Mr. Roy Knutsen,
introduced himself and most of the Historical Committee, then
presented a written report and background of the Historical
Preservation Advisory Commission.
In his presentation he highlighted seven options for
review-noting that they are looking at C-E and G.
Various presentations continued with an inventory and
map,
invitation to Schaffer family reunion on June 18t h and
explanation of signage. Then the township committee was asked
to
consider requesting from the planning board: a modification to
the
Master Plan and the development of a preservation ordinance.
Funding was requested to contract with a Preservation
Historian
to review and complete the inventory.
Lastly, consider creating a tax assessment deferral
program.
After the presentation, Mayor Sylvester thanked the
commission
for all their hard work and efforts, also citing Kathy Wunder.
A question and answer period followed. Mayor Sylvester
then
asked the Clerk put the Historic Preservation Advisory
Commission on
the Agenda for May 17, 2005.
Mr. Maselli,,927
Main Street, Commend the Historical Society for all their hard
work
with the Historical District. He
wanted his statement known that his position remains the same,
which
is that he refuses the right to make his building a historical
building and added that no one has the right to make that
decision.
Mr.
Kelsey, 915
Cedar Ridge Rd, Explained the procedure that has followed thus
far
with the Historical Committee. From minutes dated January 31,
2005,
Quote: “The HPAC determined
the presentation will be provided on April 19, 2005 to the
township
committee and the secretary place said meeting on the agenda”
Because of the confusion of dates, Mr. Kelsey demanded that
the
presentation be adjourned and proper advance notice be given
to the
public for the township meeting that will have this
presentation.
He also would like a copy of the publication for the
change of
date for this meeting. As far as the matters for the
Historical
District tonight, if determined to proceed, Mr. Kelsey
requested a
full and accurate report of the reasons of the commencement of
the
process; and explained the scope of requirements.
He also asked the committee to recognize the attendance
in
opposition, the map being hard to read and the failure to send
proper
notice. He thanked the committee for their time and trusts
that they
will take all matters into consideration.
Township
Committee Minutes
May
17, 2005HISTORIC
PRESERVATION
COMMISSION: Presentation
on April 12th, Mayor Sylvester and Mr. Fuoco have
spent
over a year with many other people to formulate a plan. for a
moderate
Historical Preservation Commission.
Rules will be written by the Planning Board and
included within
the Master Plan. It was
placed on the agenda for discussion.
The Committee shared there views and a lengthy
discussion
followed. All the
information will be sent on to the planning department.
Fred
Schultz- Thank
you for taking the time to discuss the Historical Preservation
Commission. He explained
the district and his knowledge on the Historical Commission
and that
he Mr. Knudsen or Joan would be happy to answer any questions
anyone
may have.
Carmelo
Maselli-927 Main Street, Congratulated Mrs. Schlecter on
her
presentation: Why spend money if you don’t need to?
The same applies to the Historical Preservation
Commission and
added that no one has permission to include his property
within the
Historical District.
Mr.
Kelsky- Appreciate interest of the viability of moving
forward
instead of just moving forward. There
was a referendum presented and there were thirty people in
attendance
for the meeting. He again raised the objection of the people
for a
historical commission. He
noted that the board has an obligation to the people to cancel
proceeding with the creation of a Historical Preservation
Commission.
Tina
Keppler, 909 Deer Run- The people that came out in
opposition of
the Historical Preservation Commission, do not know what they
are
opposing. History is
everyone’s responsibility to protect, would like to see
Stillwater
protect its History.
MISCELLANEOUS COMMITTEE
REPORTS:
Mr. Fuoco- The
Historical Preservation Commission is to benefit of the entire
community. The avenue was
created by the State of New Jersey to protect, and Stillwater
has the
duty to protect their Historic community.
Township
Committee Minutes
June 14, 2005
Historical
District should be placed on the next agenda; June 21, 2005
Township
Committee Minutes
June 21, 2005
Mr.
Richard Kelsky-Cedar
Ridge Road, Echo Mr. Hammond’s suggestion, the board has the
duty and right to stick to the vote of the people.
As far as listening to the people in the township in
regard to
the Historical
District, Mr. Kelsky has not heard a plausible explanation for
the
Historical District in this town and for ignoring the loud
voices
saying they do not want a Historical District in Stillwater
Township.
Most people would not put there homes on the list for a
Historical District. It is important that it is realized that
the
township has a comprehensive zoning plan that adequately
protects the
residents against development that is unwanted.
Mr.
Bud Teare-945 West Shore Drive, Served on the Historical
Committee
in Liberty Corners, New Jersey when they declared a Historical
District. As far as he
could remember it has increased the value of homes in that
area.
He has been a resident of Stillwater for quite a long
time and
is now the President of the Historical Committee in
Stillwater.
He explained the benefits of a Historical District and
what has
been done to date in pursuit of a Historical District.
He also elaborated on the open house and events the
Historical
Committee has had. He
wishes the support of the Stillwater Township committee and
the people
of Stillwater.
HISTORICAL
DISTRICT: Mayor
Sylvester placed on the agenda for discussion.
The committee asked questions and commented on the
subject.
The historic district highlights discussed are:
bringing to a
community vote, going to the planning board, developing an
ordinance,
the Master Plan designation, protecting Stillwater’s heritage,
clarifying a home not listed within the historic division and
the
procedure, moving forward and the procedure.
MOTION made by Mr. Klimek and seconded by Mr. Fuoco to
have the
Planning Board review the recommendation of the April 12, 2005
report
to see if a Historic District can be established.
Vote as follows: Yes:
Mr. Fuoco, Mr. Klimek, Mr. Burd and Mayor Sylvester.
No: Mrs. Schlecter.
Motion carried by majority vote.
Joan Teare-945
West Shore Drive, Thank you for continuing the Public Session
on the
agenda twice. Looking for
help with regard to the speed of motorcycles-there is a group
here
that comes, usually on Sunday. As far as the Historical
Preservation,
thank you for helping to move this along.
Joan explained the procedure the Historical District
Committee
has followed thus far.
Mr. Kelsky-One,
observe and agree, as Mrs. Schlecter pointed out that the vote
is not
consistent with the advice of the attorney.
Two, There are two members of the Historical Committee
and
don’t believe that they should be able to vote.-will leave
that to
council to determine.
Township
Committee Minutes
July 5, 2005Mayor
Sylvester appointed Mrs. Joan Teare to the Open Space
Committee as a
Historical component. She
does not represent the Historical Society or the Historical
District.
Township
Committee Minutes
January 1, 2006
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, by the Mayor and
Township Committee of the Township of Stillwater, County of Sussex
that
the 2006 Temporary Budget be adopted and that a certified copy be
transmitted to the Chief Financial Officer for her records.
Historical Preservation Commission-Salaries &
Wages $ 0.00
Historical Preservation Commission-Other
Expenses $ 0.00
****After this point it seems the advisory commission for the historic district goes away. This was in the middle of "Pond Brook" and the committee had bigger issues to deal with. Kelsky seemed like he did a good job of bullying the committee on the issue and we probably didn't do a good enough job of arguing back for preservation. There were other people in opposition to the project but it appears that they never actually got up and said that they were against it. I would like to find the minutes that the paid secretary prepared for this commission. They must exist somewhere. I'd like to see who wrote the 7 letters to mayor Klimek.